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the government wanted the government to hear the evidence in what are closed closed material proceed rgs. which include the public, the media and even the american who brought the case. the intelligent services could be compromised. at the moment the government finds itself unable to defend some compensation claims for fear of blowing the government of secret agents or government sources. >> we are up next since the ter techniques and people. of course, we are. >> what i am worried about is that we're giving them the victory and actually legislating to underpin that victory. >> it's deeply distressing to me and to my former colleagues to be accused of really wicked treatment in the case of torture and maltreatment. we have not been able to defend ourselves. one of the things that this closed material procedure does is it gives opportunity for this material, which may or may not reflect badly on the intelligent services. i actually think it would not reflect badly. but that it should be looked at. >> one of the things that should not happen is you must not reduce the abilities of the
the government wanted the government to hear the evidence in what are closed closed material proceed rgs. which include the public, the media and even the american who brought the case. the intelligent services could be compromised. at the moment the government finds itself unable to defend some compensation claims for fear of blowing the government of secret agents or government sources. >> we are up next since the ter techniques and people. of course, we are. >> what i am worried...
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and it'll chute shut down the government. it would be more draconian than what we are facing with the fiscal cliff. >> i was struck by not only the number of ceos that put pressure on washington, but ceos from some of the biggest companies in america to the small e69 companies in america. >> they were all in favor as a compromise, a tax hike as part after long-term debt solution. that's what has to happen. >>> we have two minutes before the president comes out. let me turn you to the top of the list, mark zuckerberg, why? eric, excuse me one second. we will go to ayman an john. we have some of the framework but the language here may be extremely important. what are we listening for? >> what i expect from the president is to try to keep the pressure on negotiators to get a deal. he will have middle class families around him. to some degree this is a pr event. it is possible and the republican aide i mentioned earlier who confirmed details on the agreement of middle class taxes said the president may mention that agreement in h
and it'll chute shut down the government. it would be more draconian than what we are facing with the fiscal cliff. >> i was struck by not only the number of ceos that put pressure on washington, but ceos from some of the biggest companies in america to the small e69 companies in america. >> they were all in favor as a compromise, a tax hike as part after long-term debt solution. that's what has to happen. >>> we have two minutes before the president comes out. let me turn...
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. >> reporter: along with the direct revenue coming into the local government, many of the businesses here in prince george's county also reap the benefits during game time. >> loaded up, got our subs and everything like that. plenty of beer. >> reporter: rg3's jersey is selling the most. >> which jersey do you want? >> rg3. >> reporter: it's hard to keep up with demand. >> rg3 jerseys. we have some women seizes left and kids. >> reporter: winter hats sold out. >> you have this coveted hat. they're sold out here. >> i had it since the first day it came out. i got first. nobody else don't have it. i got it first. >> reporter: in the county, officials include an anticipated amount of revenue for the regular season their budget forecast. any additional from post games? >> that's a bonus. >> reporter: chris and heather are staying at the nearby radisson. >> if they get to the playoffs you'll come back? >> absolutely. if there's a home game we've signed up for the lottery or whatever. >> got our tickets ready. paid for. >> reporter: in prince george's county, lauren demarco, fox 5 news. >>
. >> reporter: along with the direct revenue coming into the local government, many of the businesses here in prince george's county also reap the benefits during game time. >> loaded up, got our subs and everything like that. plenty of beer. >> reporter: rg3's jersey is selling the most. >> which jersey do you want? >> rg3. >> reporter: it's hard to keep up with demand. >> rg3 jerseys. we have some women seizes left and kids. >> reporter: winter...
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government's authority to eavesdrop on foreign spies and terrorists. it allows u.s. intelligence groups to monitor phone calls and e-mails without and court order. the rule does not apply to americans for whom the government still needs a warrant to legally conduct surveillance. >>> new california law include efforts to better protect children. coaches and administrators in schools will be required to report suspected child abuse and it will be a misdemeanor if a parent or guardian fails to report the sdreerence or death of a child -- disappearance within dwo hours. other laws increase protection from foreclosure, a state pension including a higher retirement age, and low nothing workers. >> -- low income workers. >> anyone who shops in california, more on the statewide sales tax and the last push to save money before that happens. >>> this is just 1 component of the new law and it raises the sales tax a quarter% for the next 4 years so some of spending trying to buy their big ticket items now, others say it's just 1 more reason to save. >> ask the sales staff at hon
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even before that, we had multiple threats of government shutdown over things like funding of planned parenthood and even if we get through this with a deal, we may have another debt ceiling showdown. are we at the point in history where we cannot get anything done and nothing will happen until we have one party in control again? >> well, no. i think we can get things done. although, this is coming from a person who's had to re'range vacation plans for three years because congress couldn't finish their work in until the last second. so, you know, when you hear mitch mcconnell on the senate floor saying we can do this, we have to do this, there's a sign saying, okay, when things are bad they can get together. i'm not quite sure why it has to be that bad, though, before they actually do something. i mean, almost everybody in this country could look at this and see it comes and say, okay, taxes are going up on january 1st. house, why can't you do something before they go up? when you know they go up. do something you like better but do something. that's a hard question to answer and real
even before that, we had multiple threats of government shutdown over things like funding of planned parenthood and even if we get through this with a deal, we may have another debt ceiling showdown. are we at the point in history where we cannot get anything done and nothing will happen until we have one party in control again? >> well, no. i think we can get things done. although, this is coming from a person who's had to re'range vacation plans for three years because congress couldn't...
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potentially the 12th hour at this point. >> government at its finest. i think that's in the government 101 class. wait until the last possible minute. thank you, kristen. as you can see, folks, if you are looking at the screen, these are, as john harris mentioned, earlier who is still with me, these are what we believe to be middle class americans that president obama will speak in front of. we are within literally minutes. we believe we have the two minute warning here on the president, so we expect him to be out soon. john, just quickly, because we are close here, kristen mentioned pr campaigns. the president, as you say, campaign style approach to this entire debate different many some ways than certainly economic stimulus, and a little bit different than health care. is this lessons learned from those two fights? >> i think it's partly that, and i think he has learned, look, he has public leverage, but he doesn't necessarily have private leverage. he doesn't have republican votes in the house. you use what weapons you have as a president, and the pu
potentially the 12th hour at this point. >> government at its finest. i think that's in the government 101 class. wait until the last possible minute. thank you, kristen. as you can see, folks, if you are looking at the screen, these are, as john harris mentioned, earlier who is still with me, these are what we believe to be middle class americans that president obama will speak in front of. we are within literally minutes. we believe we have the two minute warning here on the president,...
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it doesn't deal with funding the government. so it essentially -- and this is what a lot of republicans have told me. they're happy to go through this on the tax rates if they get anything above $250,000, they think that's a win because they believe they can have the same type of fights over spending, same type of fights as one told me a few days ago, bring the president to his knees in a few months. so this is not that big of a concession for them off the bat. it's extraordinary when you think about it in the context of ten years but in terms of moving forward, they really see it's helping their negotiating leverage which is a fascinating, fascinating development. >> to tell you about the patience of the american people, they did this survey about words and phrases they want to get rid of. number one, they're done with fiscal cliff. >> yeah. >> and also kicking the can down the road. but to your point, that is exactly what's going to happen, and whatever comes out of this deal and whenever the vote happens, this is really barel
it doesn't deal with funding the government. so it essentially -- and this is what a lot of republicans have told me. they're happy to go through this on the tax rates if they get anything above $250,000, they think that's a win because they believe they can have the same type of fights over spending, same type of fights as one told me a few days ago, bring the president to his knees in a few months. so this is not that big of a concession for them off the bat. it's extraordinary when you think...
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so austerity in terms of shrinking the size of government, or the growth of government would be very healthy for the economy. austerity in europe is something elsewhere because of the euro situation you have to cut people's wages to make those countries competitive again. that's a completely different issue, austerity in terms of reversing the tremendous increase we've had in government spending over the last four years, we've gone from 2.9 trillion to 3.8 trillion in 30-odd percent increase in four years. and there's no trend or motivation so far to reverse that or normalize that. so again, austerity for the public sector is stimulus for the private sector. >> all right. thank you very much, sean. happy new year to you as well. >> you too, don. >>> a mom and her kids reunited after they had been missing for nearly a week, thanks to a cnn viewer. thanks to you. hear their story next. him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from
so austerity in terms of shrinking the size of government, or the growth of government would be very healthy for the economy. austerity in europe is something elsewhere because of the euro situation you have to cut people's wages to make those countries competitive again. that's a completely different issue, austerity in terms of reversing the tremendous increase we've had in government spending over the last four years, we've gone from 2.9 trillion to 3.8 trillion in 30-odd percent increase in...
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is not going to repay its debt obligations and the full faith and credit of the united states government, we're not going to give that up. >> a very valid point. you believe we need to get spending under control. we don't knees to raise taxes but you don't want to do it on the back of fearmongering that is responsible and i appreciate that. and steven, i love you, too, and i really do hope that you and i do not ring in the new year together. >> me, too, but have a happy one anyway. >> thank you, sir. don, you and i might. >> what is wrong -- ali, you're a cool guy. why wouldn't steven want to spend new year's with you? >> i agree. the three of us might be spending new year's together so let's not speak too soon. >> steven, i have seen you everywhere. you were on two networks at once and then you're on the third network after you were off the other one. >> you know, i was supposed to be skiing today. i actually skied this morning and rushed back, but i know one casualty of the fiscal cliff and that's me. >> there you go. >> thank you, thank you. so the senate won't vote tonight. house spe
is not going to repay its debt obligations and the full faith and credit of the united states government, we're not going to give that up. >> a very valid point. you believe we need to get spending under control. we don't knees to raise taxes but you don't want to do it on the back of fearmongering that is responsible and i appreciate that. and steven, i love you, too, and i really do hope that you and i do not ring in the new year together. >> me, too, but have a happy one anyway....
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the government would be bringing in more revenue, but that's going to take some time. that's not going to happen immediately and it's a relatively small amount in terms of what the government is spending every single day. that money would be spent pretty quickly. so, again, because we're now at this point where this is just a short-term deal, any of the major entitlement reforms that would actually bring major spending cuts are sngsly off the table right now. so, to answer your question directly without pointing a finger at either party, report the facts, there's no major spending cuts here, so it would not have a major impact on the deficit even if they get a quote, unquote deal. >> ed, your last question, your favorite show to do on fox news. >> i'm going to get in trouble. i love "the five" i love bret and i love shep and chris wallace-- >> and public relations-- >> let's go to mike emanuel also in d.c. and following the dramatic on capitol hill. surely this is your favorite show on fox, your debut on "the five", mike emanuel. >> thank you, dana. senators i've been
the government would be bringing in more revenue, but that's going to take some time. that's not going to happen immediately and it's a relatively small amount in terms of what the government is spending every single day. that money would be spent pretty quickly. so, again, because we're now at this point where this is just a short-term deal, any of the major entitlement reforms that would actually bring major spending cuts are sngsly off the table right now. so, to answer your question...
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you want to have a standard of we respect our government and we're going forward. so that's why i was shaking my head is right now it's like to be the best out of the three bad guys isn't that great. >> i just talked to three separate senate democratic offices and to a tee everyone said what the hell was the president doing at that press conference? democrats said this. they don't get where he was going with that. >> let me ask you this. i saw some comments on twitter from pundits saying that maybe the thing that was happening here is the president was trying to quell what sounded like this morning a growing sort of frustration and resistance on the left to the deal that was emerging. is there -- isn't there some merit to that? >> i think that's possible, but i think you have -- take a look -- listen, i'm not concerned at all about house republican seats or house democratic seats. what i look at is who is up for re-election on the democratic side and the republican side in 2014. if you look at those democrats, the ones that aren't going to retire, they're vulnerabl
you want to have a standard of we respect our government and we're going forward. so that's why i was shaking my head is right now it's like to be the best out of the three bad guys isn't that great. >> i just talked to three separate senate democratic offices and to a tee everyone said what the hell was the president doing at that press conference? democrats said this. they don't get where he was going with that. >> let me ask you this. i saw some comments on twitter from pundits...
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they think shrinking the government, making the government do less are actually good things. >> right, i don't think there's any question about that. we know there's an element of the republican party, ron paul, rand paul being the most visible, who think the less government does, the better. now, in that vain, i've been struck. david wasserman at the "cook political report" crunched the numbers on this, that there are 234 house republicans. 15 of them, 15 represent districts that president obama carried in 2012. given that, and we were talking with kelly about the fact that this has to come through the house at some point, that republicans still control. is there any reason for, politically speaking -- >> absolutely, right. >> -- not good of the country speaking, but politically speaking, is there any reason for these guys to make a deal given that for 215 of them, the constituency they represent are mitt romney's? >> i think this is the problem. where most people follow a presidential election and don't realize what happens in each of the districts. what republicans have done a very
they think shrinking the government, making the government do less are actually good things. >> right, i don't think there's any question about that. we know there's an element of the republican party, ron paul, rand paul being the most visible, who think the less government does, the better. now, in that vain, i've been struck. david wasserman at the "cook political report" crunched the numbers on this, that there are 234 house republicans. 15 of them, 15 represent districts...
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people boast of cutting government. when was the last time you heard them cut fire department or cut down on snow removal? in fact the republicans tend to be opposed to spending in general. when it comes to particular spending, remember paul ryan acknowledging he was seeking to get the stimulus money that he was denouncing. but in any case, it's not the democratic position we should put all of the increased revenue into spending. by the way, i believe much of government spending is very important. there are things that we need for the quality of our life. good transportation. public safety. decent education. you can't do those only through the private sector. >> let me ask you quickly, i'd like to use your perspective in 30-plus years you've been in congress, and this is the least productive congress ever. i'm sure i don't need to tell you the numbers but it's 219 bills passed, some of them pretty much inconsequential. i think the previous low number of bills passed was 333. how do you think we got to this point? how di
people boast of cutting government. when was the last time you heard them cut fire department or cut down on snow removal? in fact the republicans tend to be opposed to spending in general. when it comes to particular spending, remember paul ryan acknowledging he was seeking to get the stimulus money that he was denouncing. but in any case, it's not the democratic position we should put all of the increased revenue into spending. by the way, i believe much of government spending is very...
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that meant the government will >> the house adjourned for tomorrow so the government is guaranteed to go over the fiscal cliff, at least for the moment. and doctors at a new york hospital announced secretary of state hillary clinton has a blood clot between the school and brain. but they said she's making excellent progress. we're capturing new year's eve celebrations around the world and you can be a part of kwame holman has the details. >> holman: we're tracking instagram with the hashtag "nye" to see how people around the world are ringing in 2013. tag yours tonight to be a part of our interactive map. on "ask larry," our social security sage offers tips on maximizing benefits for you and your spouse. and from our partners at kaiser health news, what the new health care law says about gun ownership. all that and more is on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. ray? >> suarez: and that's the newshour for tonight. on tuesday, we have an update on the ongoing recovery efforts in the devastating wake of hurricane sandy, plus a conversation with newly elected republican senator deb fisher of
that meant the government will >> the house adjourned for tomorrow so the government is guaranteed to go over the fiscal cliff, at least for the moment. and doctors at a new york hospital announced secretary of state hillary clinton has a blood clot between the school and brain. but they said she's making excellent progress. we're capturing new year's eve celebrations around the world and you can be a part of kwame holman has the details. >> holman: we're tracking instagram with the...
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but it's not just the government. a team of much pretorius at glorious, you're fired, sugar, it's been set up at the opposition to chuckle youth unemployment in middlesboro, liverpool, nottingham and have another areas in britain at the highest levels of youth unemployment. getting ready for work cannot be the u.k. parliament campaign. he's unemployment is clearly a large concern for young people. otherwise he wouldn't debate here today. however, there issues with members of the parliament, relevant and effective the campaign on. what use are more jobs if we don't learn essential life skills and education? howling of people google to access this increased number of jobs the public =tranfour doesn't get us where we need to be when we need to be there? the value of having a job if we're discriminated against and their son april 9 the national wage for everyone. this campaign is not recognizing a people we represent that are more brightly concerned of getting to school on time. not whether they get a job and five, six, s
but it's not just the government. a team of much pretorius at glorious, you're fired, sugar, it's been set up at the opposition to chuckle youth unemployment in middlesboro, liverpool, nottingham and have another areas in britain at the highest levels of youth unemployment. getting ready for work cannot be the u.k. parliament campaign. he's unemployment is clearly a large concern for young people. otherwise he wouldn't debate here today. however, there issues with members of the parliament,...
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that meant the government will >> the house adjourned for tomorrow so the government is guaranteed to go over the fiscal cliff, at least for the moment. and doctors at a new york hospital announced secretary of state hillary clinton has a blood clot between the school and brain. but they said she's making excellent progress. we're capturing new year's eve celebrations around the world and you can be a part of kwame holman has the details. >> holman: we're tracking instagram with the hashtag "nye" to see how people around the world are ringing in 2013. tag yours tonight to be a part of our interactive map. on "ask larry," our social security sage offers tips on maximizing benefits for you and your spouse. and from our partners at kaiser health news, what the new health care law says about gun ownership. all that and more is on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. ray? >> suarez: and that's the newshour for tonight. on tuesday, we have an update on the ongoing recovery efforts in the devastating wake of hurricane sandy, plus a conversation with newly elected republican senator deb fisher of
that meant the government will >> the house adjourned for tomorrow so the government is guaranteed to go over the fiscal cliff, at least for the moment. and doctors at a new york hospital announced secretary of state hillary clinton has a blood clot between the school and brain. but they said she's making excellent progress. we're capturing new year's eve celebrations around the world and you can be a part of kwame holman has the details. >> holman: we're tracking instagram with the...
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government because fewer people are involved in seeing taxes go up from the 35% rate right now to the 39.6% rate, which existed before the bush tax cuts were implemented in 2001 and 2003 during the clinton administrati administration. so it will be less revenue. they have to find more revenue elsewhere, but it's something the president felt he needed to do to get a deal to show he's ready to negotiate. so he moved from that 250 to 450, so that's a significant concession from the democrats' perspective. >> jessica, what do we expect to hear from the president in the statement he's going to make momentarily? >> reporter: i believe, he's going to urge action, suzanne, and call on both parties to pass this. as you know and as dana bash reported from capitol hill, there are democrats who have expressed concern about the agreement or the emerging deal. it's not done yet. and there is obviously going to be republican resistance, but you know, he will call on both sides to do something. i point out that while 450,000 for a household is a concession by democrats, the democrats are getting some
government because fewer people are involved in seeing taxes go up from the 35% rate right now to the 39.6% rate, which existed before the bush tax cuts were implemented in 2001 and 2003 during the clinton administrati administration. so it will be less revenue. they have to find more revenue elsewhere, but it's something the president felt he needed to do to get a deal to show he's ready to negotiate. so he moved from that 250 to 450, so that's a significant concession from the democrats'...
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just our dysfunctional government. arthel: there was anoint the speech that may antagonize house republicans. >> last month republicans in congress said they would never agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest americans, but obviously the agreement that's being struck would raise those rates and raise them permanently. >> there was to tepid applause. it was suppose to be an official white house event but it was almost a campaign event and people were cheering. they are turning republican compromise into spiking the football in their face while there is a lot of uncertainty still about whether this deal is going to get done. what does that accomplish? all it does is anger republicans more while this is still a tentative scenario. which is why i go back to my initial comment. i don't know what the president was hoping to accomplish in a protective way with that performance and maybe it would have been wise for him -- i understand he wants to use his bully pulpit. but while we have this agreement in flux it might have
just our dysfunctional government. arthel: there was anoint the speech that may antagonize house republicans. >> last month republicans in congress said they would never agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest americans, but obviously the agreement that's being struck would raise those rates and raise them permanently. >> there was to tepid applause. it was suppose to be an official white house event but it was almost a campaign event and people were cheering. they are turning...
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about what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now? >>> next, scanl. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. now through january 2nd, no monthly payments until spring for qualified buyers. get the silverado for 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $1,000 holiday bonus cash. plus trade up for an additional $1,000 trade-in allowance. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. to the best vacation sp(all) the gulf! this season, discover aleve. it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it. shaul, your alabama hospitality
about what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now? >>> next, scanl. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ]...
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be paying for that government. that's how i look at the issue. but there's no right or wrong, under what -- on whether our government is bigger or smaller. but charging it all on the national credit card and getting that bill to the next-generation is dangerous and damaging and it's wrong, particularly when the borrowing will not invest or grow the economy. i understand the point republicans make that if they put runners on the table, they want that to be combined with real spending cuts and entitlement reforms. that's part of the grand bargain. i also understand the point democrats make, which is there's growing income and -- income equality in this country. wells have been doing very well over the past years, so they want to make sure revenues are collected from the people. i think they're starting to be political agreement that it is acceptable, that we will raise the news and it will focus on people making some amount of money. none of this is going to be enough. will have to go back and look more carefully at
be paying for that government. that's how i look at the issue. but there's no right or wrong, under what -- on whether our government is bigger or smaller. but charging it all on the national credit card and getting that bill to the next-generation is dangerous and damaging and it's wrong, particularly when the borrowing will not invest or grow the economy. i understand the point republicans make that if they put runners on the table, they want that to be combined with real spending cuts and...
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so you're also potentially affected by spending cuts in the government. could you give us a better idea of what that might mean to your business? >> absolutely. that probably is worse than the tax hike. the washington area is probably the strongest area in the country in terms of people that are going to be affected by this. i do business with a lot of contract contractors that work with the federal government. of course, if they are not in business and their demand for my products go down, maybe i'm out of business. i don't know. >> i guess you were affected by the recession in some pretty dramatic ways and there's a potential for a whole new wave. can you talk about how the recession also affected you? >> absolutely. the last three or four years have been tough. we have had to cut back expenses and personnel. we have done what we can in terms of increasing our revenues more efficiently. we are being smarter about how we spend our money and the customers we're dealing with. the whole aspect of what may happen in terms of losing our customer base is a sca
so you're also potentially affected by spending cuts in the government. could you give us a better idea of what that might mean to your business? >> absolutely. that probably is worse than the tax hike. the washington area is probably the strongest area in the country in terms of people that are going to be affected by this. i do business with a lot of contract contractors that work with the federal government. of course, if they are not in business and their demand for my products go...
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on the default showdown, the government shut down there was more urgency. here there just isn't that urgency, maybe because the markets haven't been the roller coaster we thought they would be. eventually people will see less money in their paychecks unless a deal is reached and that could cause some kind of panic that could move congress. so far congress has just not moved and neither has the president. they haven't been able to get a deal. >> reporter: we keep hearing that this is not just a tax problem, raising revenues, this is also a big spending problem. and those issues are just not being addressed. >> yeah, and whatever deal they reach, this debt problem is not going to be going away. tax reform, entitlement reform will probably have to be done in 2013. the big thing here is this because supposed to be a down payment on deficit reduction, and when you think about the things that could be in this bill, whether it's increasing rates for doctors in medicare, as well as possibly delaying the defense sequester, this bill could actually cost money and inc
on the default showdown, the government shut down there was more urgency. here there just isn't that urgency, maybe because the markets haven't been the roller coaster we thought they would be. eventually people will see less money in their paychecks unless a deal is reached and that could cause some kind of panic that could move congress. so far congress has just not moved and neither has the president. they haven't been able to get a deal. >> reporter: we keep hearing that this is not...
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the fact of the matter is that the federal government spends too much. you can't tell me that the dime out of every dollar that's spent -- >> i'm not telling you that, you're right. would you agree to a deal that at some point involves the raising of taxes on somebody? >> i won't foreclose any possibility. >> got it. >> but the fact of the matter remains that we've got a lot of things that should be included in that. >> sure. >> because to this point. i haven't seen evidence of that, and hearing the president talk on another network yesterday, you know, it didn't sound as if he had that fundamental understanding. look, all tax bills have to originate in the house. the president can't propose legislation about taxes. he knows that. he's a constitutional scholar. i'm just a simple country doctor and i get that point. >> you're not a simple country doctor, but thank you for that point. >> thank you. >> we appreciate your time this morning. >> thank you. >>> less than 18 hours from a deadline that absolutely never needed to be here. here are a few of the thi
the fact of the matter is that the federal government spends too much. you can't tell me that the dime out of every dollar that's spent -- >> i'm not telling you that, you're right. would you agree to a deal that at some point involves the raising of taxes on somebody? >> i won't foreclose any possibility. >> got it. >> but the fact of the matter remains that we've got a lot of things that should be included in that. >> sure. >> because to this point. i...
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the debt ceiling is simply a decision by the united states government to pay its debts. i am very troubled by the fact that that came into play. there are legitimate concerns about what level of taxation we should have, how much military spending there should be, should we reduce medicare. but whether or not we should pay or debts ought not to be a political issue. and hold the reputation for america as someplace that pays its debts hostage is a terrible idea. i'm hoping this will be a good precedent for getting the debt limit issue out of the way. and then there will be legitimate public policy debates about how much and what kind of spending cuts. >> congressman, this is dan greenhaus. let me say, you're hilarious and i'm going to miss you. jonathan tweeted, obama has utterly caved on taxes and inviting future hostage tactics by the gop. does that sound right to you? >> no. in the first place, he has insisted on raising taxes, letting taxes go up, is what we're doing, for people above a certain income level. he does not control the house of representatives. part of thi
the debt ceiling is simply a decision by the united states government to pay its debts. i am very troubled by the fact that that came into play. there are legitimate concerns about what level of taxation we should have, how much military spending there should be, should we reduce medicare. but whether or not we should pay or debts ought not to be a political issue. and hold the reputation for america as someplace that pays its debts hostage is a terrible idea. i'm hoping this will be a good...
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we never hear any stories about positive with respect to our government. it's always negativity, fighting. there is no leadership. nobody is getting along. >> clayton: let's talk about these numbers. chris wallace was saying yesterday, when you're in these negotiations negotiations and you've done a lot of these, so take us hyped behind the scenes. most numbers won't find out about the numbers outside of the room. how much taxes will be raised and those making $400,000, truth is, we don't know, right, because you're in those closed doors and no one outside of it is privy to that information at this hour. >> that's right. and i heard chris' statement and i agree with it 100%, the ones that really know, they're not talking. the talkers are the ones that don't know what's going on. the fact is, and i thought it was a very good segment 'cause it's true. but the fact is that it doesn't matter whether or not we know. the small group of people that should know, and those are the people that are supposed to be leading this people and they're not leading the countr
we never hear any stories about positive with respect to our government. it's always negativity, fighting. there is no leadership. nobody is getting along. >> clayton: let's talk about these numbers. chris wallace was saying yesterday, when you're in these negotiations negotiations and you've done a lot of these, so take us hyped behind the scenes. most numbers won't find out about the numbers outside of the room. how much taxes will be raised and those making $400,000, truth is, we don't...
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so, you know, what makes this government work is compromise. when you don't compromise there is stasis. we have had enough of that for too long. >> reporter: the president says if biden and mcconnell can't cut a deal the senate will vote on extending tax cuts for families making less than $250,000 a year and basically force republicans to go the politically risky route voting against it, gregg. gregg: essentially that means taxes are definitely going to go up? >> reporter: it seems the only question is the income cuttoff. now vice president biden is said to be about 100,000 a year apart. biden is willing to preserve tax cuts for families making up to $450,000. mcconnell holding out for $550,000. a year. south carolina senator lindsey graham is not happy about it. >> in 2010 we extend the all the tax cuts because the economy was weak. in 2012, 2013, we're not going to extend the tax cuts the economy is weaker. i don't understand the economics but i do understand the politics. the president won. the president campaigned on raising rates. he will
so, you know, what makes this government work is compromise. when you don't compromise there is stasis. we have had enough of that for too long. >> reporter: the president says if biden and mcconnell can't cut a deal the senate will vote on extending tax cuts for families making less than $250,000 a year and basically force republicans to go the politically risky route voting against it, gregg. gregg: essentially that means taxes are definitely going to go up? >> reporter: it seems...
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on in the united states is passing budgets, so we have so-called continuing resolutions which allow government to keep on operating. >> this will go on and on and on. he is right. and we have one deadline after another. this big fight -- congress for ten or 15 years has set us into this frenzy of deadline after deadline after deadline. 11th hour. >> it's not good. if your taxes might go up next year, what about your fwroshry bill? the deal that could affect milk prices coming up next. you're watching "starting point." ♪ aww man. [ male announcer ] returns are easy with free pickup from the u.s. postal service. we'll even drop off boxes if you need them. visit usps.com pay, print, and have it picked up for free. any time of year. ♪ nice sweater. thank you. ♪ >>> ahead on "starting point," the latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations. we'll ask one house member if he expects to be voting on a deal today. next, utah congressman jason chaffetz. and is the kardashian clan about to get bigger? the new year's news you had to have. kim and kanye west, they respond to the pregnancy rumors. >>> bre
on in the united states is passing budgets, so we have so-called continuing resolutions which allow government to keep on operating. >> this will go on and on and on. he is right. and we have one deadline after another. this big fight -- congress for ten or 15 years has set us into this frenzy of deadline after deadline after deadline. 11th hour. >> it's not good. if your taxes might go up next year, what about your fwroshry bill? the deal that could affect milk prices coming up...
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that's what the government does. get government off our backs and this economy could take off. >> senator, thank you. we'll see. >> the packers. >> still? >> absolutely. >> -- through washington. >> that's what i'm saying. i was rooting for the redskins last night. that was a fun game to watch. >> becky, did you notice, where did we get -- took us that long to find a song called rise above? did you hear that song. >> we did hear that at the beginning. i was talking about spider-man, they sing it through spider-man on broadway. that was a different version. >> can we commission that song? or did that exist in senate? >> it's actually me singing the backup. no! >> i wondered because it sounded like sorkin was the reggae thing. weren't you just in jamaica? >> i was in jamaica. we recorded that while we were down there. >> this is where we come together. we're not allowed to play any beatles stuff. >> we're not? >> no. ixnay on the beatles. >> now i have the kangaroo song stuck in my head. >> why did i think of that? but
that's what the government does. get government off our backs and this economy could take off. >> senator, thank you. we'll see. >> the packers. >> still? >> absolutely. >> -- through washington. >> that's what i'm saying. i was rooting for the redskins last night. that was a fun game to watch. >> becky, did you notice, where did we get -- took us that long to find a song called rise above? did you hear that song. >> we did hear that at the...